Were Tony Abbott's comments regarding the death of an Australian Soldier insensitive?

No this is a media beat up		43%
Yes Mr Abbott's comments were insensitive and inappropriate		57%

Obviously a slow news week?

by OzRob (09/02/2011)

I heard even the Defence Minister has thrown his support behind Tony Abbott.

by ElizabethFred (09/02/2011)

And both sides of politics agree about this...beat-up

by tash8497 (09/02/2011)

send the tools at 7 a email about what you think of them & Riley
www.google.com.au/

by cob115 (10/02/2011)

Sorry, Cob, but that is not a direct link to Channel 7, It is a link to a Melbourne marketing Co and Riley is in Sydney !!!

by ElizabethFred (10/02/2011)

I can't find any actual contact via electronic mail for Channel 7 - there is lots of links but they send you off to other organisations like "free tv" - the only way to contact them is by phone - forget that as the message you leave goes into the bin or snail mail, a sneaky ploy as by the time they get it, consider your complaint for a couple of weeks and send back a response, they know you will have "moved on". Bit like 5AA in a way, if you have a complaint you have to send it in writing to the GM and then WAIT for a reply - Can't remember what I complained about now - what was it again Sean ?

by ElizabethFred (10/02/2011)

DOH !! i just sent a nasty email to the wrong ones !

by cob115 (10/02/2011)

They will enjoy it anyway

by ElizabethFred (10/02/2011)

What could you possibly have to complain about Fred... I thought we were perfect here at FIVEaa

by JBurns (10/02/2011)

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Those left wing Biggots need to read this ,Riley is little more than a gutter jurno

by cob115 (10/02/2011)

I think most of them are gutter journos eh? Shows such as TT and the CA are all the same...
no real substance

by tash8497 (10/02/2011)

JBurns said: What could you possibly have to complain about Fred... I thought we were perfect here at FIVEaa

JB, trust me you are and it has nothing to do with the forum

by ElizabethFred (10/02/2011)

Julia cries.
Tony says s**t happens.

Both are beat ups?
Both are true?
Both are misunderstood?
And the list can go on.

Let us leave them both alone and the media who reported both. I don't see how anyone can pick on on one over the other. He did - She did.

Surely there is something more substantial and interesting to discuss than these two things.

by LouBensonie (10/02/2011)

2 things...

Firstly we must judge by actions, not words and Abbott was a part of the Howard government that thought it was fine to send our boys to Afganistan with inferior helmets, flak jackets and boots...
This leads me to believe that they dont care about individual Australians.

Secondly if you asked your mate if he had slept with your wife and he just stared and nodded would you take that as a yes or no?

by aussieDave (10/02/2011)

aussieDave said: 2 things...
Firstly we must judge by actions, not words and Abbott was a part of the Howard government that thought it was fine to send our boys to Afganistan with inferior helmets, flak jackets and boots...
This leads me to believe that they dont care about individual Australians.
Secondly if you asked your mate if he had slept with your wife and he just stared and nodded would you take that as a yes or no?

Oh for goodness sake,I cant belive the crap that left wingnuts spit out.
For any one to acuse a conservative of not giving a rats about Soldiers is just out out there
,Bit like me saying Unions love scab labor ,grow up !

The second part of your question doesnt bother ,cos i sleep with his wife as well : )

by cob115 (10/02/2011)

aussieDave said:
Secondly if you asked your mate if he had slept with your wife and he just stared and nodded would you take that as a yes or no?

You must be completly deranged ,if you could not see the anger in Abbotts eyes & face
.I think he was thinking of his old boxing days & considering belting him one..Iv never served ,never been to Afganistan,but my family has.If some gutter jurno walked up to me ,with a recording of me taken completly out of context.& tried to insinuate , I didnt care about a dead soldier .I would smack the crap out of him.

by cob115 (10/02/2011)

JBurns said:
What could you possibly have to complain about Fred... I thought we were perfect here at FIVEaa

We have a State Government that thinks the same way

by Whyisitso (10/02/2011)

LouBensonie said:
Julia cries.
Tony says s**t happens.
Both are beat ups?
Both are true?
Both are misunderstood?
And the list can go on.
Let us leave them both alone and the media who reported both. I don't see how anyone can pick on on one over the other. He did - She did.
Surely there is something more substantial and interesting to discuss than these two things.

One was a staged performance intended to gain sympathy by deceit the other was orchestrated by a journalist in an attempt to discredit someone - hardly the same.

by Whyisitso (10/02/2011)

cob115 said:

aussieDave said: 2 things...
Firstly we must judge by actions, not words and Abbott was a part of the Howard government that thought it was fine to send our boys to Afganistan with inferior helmets, flak jackets and boots...
This leads me to believe that they dont care about individual Australians.
Secondly if you asked your mate if he had slept with your wife and he just stared and nodded would you take that as a yes or no?

Oh for goodness sake,I cant belive the crap that left wingnuts spit out.
For any one to acuse a conservative of not giving a rats about Soldiers is just out out there
,Bit like me saying Unions love scab labor ,grow up !

Can you explain why they would send our brave men off with inferior equipment? It happened, the camo gear was also all wrong too making our boys targets.
Can you tell me why they bought this cheap rubbish gear if they cared or is the almighty buck more important than human life?

by aussieDave (10/02/2011)

I guess the truth will allways come out straight away, it is only if you have to lie that you pause.
Dont forget the sub-conscious nodding that he agrees.

by aussieDave (10/02/2011)

aussieDave said:
Can you tell me why they bought this cheap rubbish gear if they cared or is the almighty buck more important than human life?

That's quite possible, just look at what happened in the space of a few months with the insulation fiasco, and that wasn't in a war zone!

by Whyisitso (10/02/2011)

Modern Labor does believe in scab labour, Goulia has already said she will bring in scab labour to help in Queensland.

Maybe thats why I dont believe in modern (New) Labor.

by aussieDave (10/02/2011)

As i said to fred dave to be scab labour you have to walk through a picket line to got to work. So before making comments that arn't reasonable do your homework.

by watson (10/02/2011)

It appears that in modern terms, that is correct, I am still trying to come to terms with treatment metered out to me when I was younger and refused to join the union. Maybe those union officials should have gone to you Watson to be told what a "Scab" was. I just accepted their superior knowledge on terminology.
What is a person who refuses to join a union called these days? (apart from unemployed, that is)

by ElizabethFred (10/02/2011)

mr abott you are a terrible man and your comments show that..grow up....

by freeo1973 (12/02/2011)

freeo1973 said:
mr abott you are a terrible man and your comments show that..grow up....

Grow a brain, he was set up & the Journo was lucky it wasn't LABOR'S 2004 Leader, Mark would have hit him

by Rob52 (13/02/2011)

why dont you grow a brain,he wasn't set up he agree to the interview you clown. it just show's what he thinks ...he doesn't give a S**t about anyone ..he is a pig of a man...his true colours has come out..the pig party (liberal's)

by freeo1973 (13/02/2011)

freeo1973 said:
why dont you grow a brain,he wasn't set up he agree to the interview you clown. it just show's what he thinks ...he doesn't give a S**t about anyone ..he is a pig of a man...his true colours has come out..the pig party (liberal's)

Your not doing the labor party any favors ,you just appear to be nothing more than a feral piece of trash.

by whoflungdung (13/02/2011)

freeo1973 said: why dont you grow a brain,he wasn't set up he agree to the interview you clown. it just show's what he thinks ...he doesn't give a S**t about anyone ..he is a pig of a man...his true colours has come out..the pig party (liberal's)

oink oink,

by tash8497 (13/02/2011)

freeo1973 said:
why dont you grow a brain,he wasn't set up he agree to the interview you clown. it just show's what he thinks ...he doesn't give a S**t about anyone ..he is a pig of a man...his true colours has come out..the pig party (liberal's)

He is more of a man than you could EVER hope to be. PIG Stands for,
P= pride
I= integrity
G=guts, Fre we all know that you have NONE of these qualities, suck it up princess! ! !

by Rob52 (13/02/2011)

He is baiting us, and unfortunately, some are taking the bait !!!

by ElizabethFred (13/02/2011)

pig stands for...sticky ,smelly,fat ....and oink oink...that was he is...rob boy

by freeo1973 (14/02/2011)

freeo1973 said:
pig stands for...sticky ,smelly,fat ....and oink oink...that was he is...rob boy

I bet your real name is Sidchrome because you are such a .........

by Rob52 (14/02/2011)

watson said:
As i said to fred dave to be scab labour you have to walk through a picket line to got to work. So before making comments that arn't reasonable do your homework.

Scab labour is also labour that has been brought in from outside the labour pool to destroy the natural supply and demand.

Bringing in this scab labour on temporary work visa's takes away the power of all working people to negotiate good rates (especially for jobs with poor conditions).

These temporary work visa's are no different than dumping cheap toilet paper in Australia and destroying our paper market or dumping cheap Chinese apples and hurting our apple farmers.

by aussieDave (15/02/2011)

Scab labour is also any workers willing to undercut the award wages for the set job.

by aussieDave (15/02/2011)

Thought Media Watch on the ABC last night summed up this whole Abbott situation beautifully, the interview was not an ambush, Abbott's response was measured, all agree he said nothing derogatory or insensitive. The problem laid with the way Channel 7 promoted the story and then let it run an unnatural course. It is yet another reason right thinking Adelaidians should not watch commercial news, it is tabloid rubbish.

by Grant (15/02/2011)

Missed the show but Media Watch are fantastic. I would like the show to be expanded. You know Grant there was talk for a while of the show disappearing. Thank goodness that didn't happen. I agree SBS and ABC have much better news.

by Optimiss (15/02/2011)

Who is the amazingly annoying and irritating guy who does media Watch? I can't watch it bec ause of him!

by tash8497 (15/02/2011)

tash8497 said: Who is the amazingly annoying and irritating guy who does media Watch? I can't watch it bec ause of him!

His name is Jonathon Holmes and he has been a journalist in all forms of the media for 30 years. i do agree he can come over as a bit of an old school teacher type at times but the shows content makes up for this.

by Grant (16/02/2011)

Yes, I agree about the content, but for some reason, find him unwatchable! Old grouch I must be!

by tash8497 (16/02/2011)

Calling each other names will get your posts deleted Rob and Freeo.

let's debate the topic with out attacking each other

by JBurns (21/02/2011)

JBurns said:
Calling each other names will get your posts deleted Rob and Freeo.
let's debate the topic with out attacking each other

Fair cop, I expected it, I'd just like to know why freeo1973 thinks The Honorable Anthony Abbott has porcine tendencies? ? ? For me I think he is the quintessential "Aussie Bloke"

by Rob52 (21/02/2011)

hmmmm, know what you mean ROB, but guess i tend to think of my outback Bro as the quintessential Oz bloke, and he bears no resemblance to our "Tone"

by tash8497 (21/02/2011)

When did Tony make a remark ? , have i missed something but looking closely at Mr Abbott his Ears resemble that of Prince Charles , bahaaaaa.

by radiobuff09 (21/02/2011)

But a much BIGGER receiving area to listen to his constituents

by ElizabethFred (21/02/2011)

Julia does have a rather prominent proboscis and posterior, one's good for sticking into other peoples business whilst sitting on the other?

by Whyisitso (21/02/2011)

hmmm.............

by tash8497 (21/02/2011)

Whyisitso said: Julia does have a rather prominent proboscis and posterior, one's good for sticking into other peoples business whilst sitting on the other?

I confess - I DID have to google the first one - bumb or dumber

by ElizabethFred (21/02/2011)

FRED! I'm shocked!

by tash8497 (21/02/2011)

. It is yet another reason right thinking Adelaidians should not watch commercial news, it is tabloid rubbish.

Tabloid isn't a kind of journalism, it is a size of a newspaper, The Advertiser is a tabliod & The Australian is a broadsheet, please don't use words that you don't know the meaning of it just makes you look stupid

by Rob52 (21/02/2011)

"Tabloid journalism" is not referring so much to the size of a newspaper but more to the reputation of newspapers that were that size - surely you haven't forgotten the page 3 girls or even "The Truth". Classic example is the "Advertiser" which is tabloid and crap, against the "Australian" which is broadsheet and a responsible newspaper. Remember the "Advertiser" when it was broadsheet, it was a fairly good read, but then we didn't have ME-dia Mike then with his 1250 strong spin department !!!

by ElizabethFred (22/02/2011)

@EF I understand what you are saying, I just get annoyed with the people that change word useage are the bottom feeders

by Rob52 (22/02/2011)

Get used to it Rob, it is the way of the world, and not all of us are academics that we can use the big words, but sometimes a misused word is more descriptive than a word you have to rush to the dictionary for (I had to google "dictionary" to see if WAS spelt with an "a" or an "e").

by ElizabethFred (22/02/2011)

ElizabethFred said:
Get used to it Rob, it is the way of the world, and not all of us are academics that we can use the big words, but sometimes a misused word is more descriptive than a word you have to rush to the dictionary for (I had to google "dictionary" to see if WAS spelt with an "a" or an "e").
;)

NEVER! ! ! ! ! ! Oh & FYI I only got to yr10 & have been both blue & white collar worker but have self educated

by Rob52 (22/02/2011)

Same here - mine was called the College of Hard Knocks

by ElizabethFred (22/02/2011)