Who in their right mind needs to get pissed at 4 in the morning? You people who voted NO...isn't 21 hours a day enough time to get hammered?

As Amanda said, GO HOME!

I'm with you on that one Rob. If you can't manage 3 hours a day when you can't buy a drink you need professional help and not a drink.

I'd like Tony Tropiano's thoughts on the suggestion of leaving the dance floors open but stopping alcohol sales.

I still dont think the Curfew is long enough, by 4am the damage is already done ,

Closing down for 3 hours will not make much of a difference. Most are well and truly smashed by then.
Actually most are smashed before they leave home. Sad but true.

OzRob said:
Who in their right mind needs to get pissed at 4 in the morning?

Kevin Foley

Mazz said:
Closing down for 3 hours will not make much of a difference. Most are well and truly smashed by then.
Actually most are smashed before they leave home. Sad but true.

This, sadly, is true Mazz. It's not just the teens and those in their twenties either. I witnessed a right royal moron, in his 50s, drunk out of his mind (though it is debatable whether he had one to begin with) at Modbury yesterday afternoon.

Paula said:

Mazz said:
Closing down for 3 hours will not make much of a difference. Most are well and truly smashed by then.
Actually most are smashed before they leave home. Sad but true.

This, sadly, is true Mazz. It's not just the teens and those in their twenties either. I witnessed a right royal moron, in his 50s, drunk out of his mind (though it is debatable whether he had one to begin with) at Modbury yesterday afternoon.

Following along the lines of WFD's above post, was it kevin Foley!!!!! Paula, did you take a water bag and emergency supplies?

No Tash, Mr Foley has far more class in his nose than this feral northerner has in his entire body and yes we took lots of lollies for the trip.

Pubs & clubs should be shut from 2am until 10am, far too many police resources are being wasted on babysitting these drunken fools.

They will still get drunk some where and the police will still have to waste resources.

whoflungdung said:

OzRob said:
Who in their right mind needs to get pissed at 4 in the morning?

Kevin Foley

GOOOOOOOD ONE! ! !

Ten o'clock, what is wrong with shuting at 10pm? ?

Mazz said:
They will still get drunk some where and the police will still have to waste resources.

True Mazz, but there will be fewer morons who drink.

Guess the authorities have to try various options with the drinking probs and follow-ons to deal with?

Paula said: No Tash, Mr Foley has far more class in his nose than this feral northerner has in his entire body and yes we took lots of lollies for the trip.

Glad to hear of your correct resources for your trip! Foley has NO class Paula, none.

Rob52 said: Ten o'clock, what is wrong with shuting at 10pm? ?

10pm!!!
That's only an hour after we used to go out! lol

Just a thought: no matter what time you have a curfew you are going to have masses of people leaving and going home at the same time. Potential problems such as lack of public transport, and lack of taxi's, masses of people on the street at the same time. Those issues need a look at as well.

tash8497 said:

Paula said: No Tash, Mr Foley has far more class in his nose than this feral northerner has in his entire body and yes we took lots of lollies for the trip.

Glad to hear of your correct resources for your trip! Foley has NO class Paula, none.

He has more than many people I met on my trip. I must travel out there more often, it makes our ferals look good. LOL

New York has a curfew . People will lose there jobs in the pub industry with a curfew. Pubs are not spose to serve people when they are strongly under the influence that is the problem they do. A curfew for hindley street seems stupid . I wont go down there at 2 am 3 am 4 am . There will be people pissed stoned or drugged up at all these times.

Paula said:

tash8497 said:

Paula said: No Tash, Mr Foley has far more class in his nose than this feral northerner has in his entire body and yes we took lots of lollies for the trip.

Glad to hear of your correct resources for your trip! Foley has NO class Paula, none.

He has more than many people I met on my trip. I must travel out there more often, it makes our ferals look good. LOL

I live in Modbury and it is not nice for you to generalise and consider we are all like that because you saw someone distastful. He may have been a visitor from Elizabeth or Port Adelaide. Did you check his id to see where he was from??

coolcath said:

Paula said:

tash8497 said:

Paula said: No Tash, Mr Foley has far more class in his nose than this feral northerner has in his entire body and yes we took lots of lollies for the trip.

Glad to hear of your correct resources for your trip! Foley has NO class Paula, none.

He has more than many people I met on my trip. I must travel out there more often, it makes our ferals look good. LOL

I live in Modbury and it is not nice for you to generalise and consider we are all like that because you saw someone distastful. He may have been a visitor from Elizabeth or Port Adelaide. Did you check his id to see where he was from??

Who said he was from Modbury? And there was more than one. I didn't specify a suburb.

Paula said:

Mazz said:
Closing down for 3 hours will not make much of a difference. Most are well and truly smashed by then.
Actually most are smashed before they leave home. Sad but true.

This, sadly, is true Mazz. It's not just the teens and those in their twenties either. I witnessed a right royal moron, in his 50s, drunk out of his mind (though it is debatable whether he had one to begin with) at Modbury yesterday afternoon.

Lokks like you named Modbury to me???

Optimiss said:

Rob52 said: Ten o'clock, what is wrong with shuting at 10pm? ?

10pm!!!
That's only an hour after we used to go out! lol

Obviously you don't start work early, if you have a job

watson said:
New York has a curfew . People will lose there jobs in the pub industry with a curfew. Pubs are not spose to serve people when they are strongly under the influence that is the problem they do. A curfew for hindley street seems stupid . I wont go down there at 2 am 3 am 4 am . There will be people pissed stoned or drugged up at all these times.

As the world changes jobs are destroyed when Keating dropped tarrifs jobs were lost in the weaving industry, in fact we have NO weaving industry in Oz now

2 of my 3 sons regularly get home at around 7 on a Sunday morning and they seem fine and have never run across too many dramas in the city so I am against it and feel we need to let kids enjoy themselves. Times have changed since we hit the town, they do not leave for their clubs until around midnight.

Times have not changed for the better though.
So it doesnt make any better argument for this Grant.
Even 4am is too late to be serving alcohol in any venue.
when I have been heading off fishing and see the idiots standing in line to enter Heaven , it amazes me how foolish these people are.
But unfortunately alcohol isnt the only drug.
Exctasy, ice, speed any many others are rampant in nightclubs.
Maybe the casino could go back to dress restrictions like they once were, slacks, shirt and proper dress shoes. that would eliminate much of the garbage that enters that place and make it a more desirable place to go.

Paula said:

tash8497 said:

Paula said: No Tash, Mr Foley has far more class in his nose than this feral northerner has in his entire body and yes we took lots of lollies for the trip.

Glad to hear of your correct resources for your trip! Foley has NO class Paula, none.

He has more than many people I met on my trip. I must travel out there more often, it makes our ferals look good. LOL

What's wrong with Modbury? and boy, if anyone was lower-class than Foley........I rest my case

Grant said: 2 of my 3 sons regularly get home at around 7 on a Sunday morning and they seem fine and have never run across too many dramas in the city so I am against it and feel we need to let kids enjoy themselves. Times have changed since we hit the town, they do not leave for their clubs until around midnight.

GRANT, that's great that your sons are responsible. My Granddaughter is also, but doesn't go nightclubbing much due to the low-life druggy types around those venues. Not all of the youngies are as sensible as ours though.

tash8497 said:

Grant said: 2 of my 3 sons regularly get home at around 7 on a Sunday morning and they seem fine and have never run across too many dramas in the city so I am against it and feel we need to let kids enjoy themselves. Times have changed since we hit the town, they do not leave for their clubs until around midnight.

GRANT, that's great that your sons are responsible. My Granddaughter is also, but doesn't go nightclubbing much due to the low-life druggy types around those venues. Not all of the youngies are as sensible as ours though.

It's always the few that spoil things for the majority.

but the minority is beginning to become the majority. Drunken or drug fu$#ed plebs are in bigger numbers around town on a week end than many people think.

blooboy said: but the minority is beginning to become the majority. Drunken or drug fu$#ed plebs are in bigger numbers around town on a week end than many people think.

Blooboy, that's the pity of it isn't it? But yes, it's true that the minority always spoil for the majority

Another aspect: many parents allow their under-age children and friends to drink at home. My 15yo Granddaughter is involved with some friends whose parents allow them to have booze at their parties etc, which is leading, in turn, to these kids becoming binge drinkers. Dreadfully irresponsible and stupid.

Close 2am and open at 8am that's what our local pub does

Dont think it matters what "Curfew" they come up with the Younger Brigade of today will always find a way around it.

5aaa said: Close 2am and open at 8am that's what our local pub does

Where is that 5aaa

radiobuff09 said: Dont think it matters what "Curfew" they come up with the Younger Brigade of today will always find a way around it.

There at least has to be an attempt to gain some control though eh?

The same excuses time and time again......
The kids drink before they go into town.
They will find other places to drink.
They will find a way around it
BLAH BLAH BLAH.....
Seems like the old lets give up now with out trying anything coz nothing will fix the problem .
typical gutless thinking.
Yes shut the pubs at 2am and open them at 10am
WHY NOT ???? it wont make the situation worse now will it ??????
As for parents allowing their 16 Y/O`s to drinlk at parties .....well they truly are dipshits.
Yes times have changed but dont you think that the way things used to be done, were the best way to do things !!!!!!!

Rob52 said:

Optimiss said:

Rob52 said: Ten o'clock, what is wrong with shuting at 10pm? ?

10pm!!!
That's only an hour after we used to go out! lol

Obviously you don't start work early, if you have a job

I was referring to fri, sat night when i was younger rob52.

blooboy said: Times have not changed for the better though.
So it doesnt make any better argument for this Grant.
Even 4am is too late to be serving alcohol in any venue.
when I have been heading off fishing and see the idiots standing in line to enter Heaven , it amazes me how foolish these people are.
But unfortunately alcohol isnt the only drug.
Exctasy, ice, speed any many others are rampant in nightclubs.
Maybe the casino could go back to dress restrictions like they once were, slacks, shirt and proper dress shoes. that would eliminate much of the garbage that enters that place and make it a more desirable place to go.

That is a very poignant poin Blooboyt. It is amphetamine based drugs that fuel a lot of violence.

Grant said:
2 of my 3 sons regularly get home at around 7 on a Sunday morning and they seem fine and have never run across too many dramas in the city so I am against it and feel we need to let kids enjoy themselves. Times have changed since we hit the town, they do not leave for their clubs until around midnight.

So, because just TWO people you know get home you think 24 hours drinking is OK? ? ? Not really a huge sample to make a descision on

tash8497 said:

radiobuff09 said: Dont think it matters what "Curfew" they come up with the Younger Brigade of today will always find a way around it.

There at least has to be an attempt to gain some control though eh?

It is just really window dressing & not attacking the problem

When I worked as a crowd controller, up until 1:00AM was a a doodle, after that it got progressively nastier

Oh gawd!

Drugs are the partner/menace in this whole horrible scenario. We saw it gradually becoming worse and worse when I was at work. Counter chq's requested for a family funeral that we knew was wanted for the next "fix". Saw it happening in car park often . All out of control and who knows what the answer really is...... very sad.

radiobuff09 said:
Dont think it matters what "Curfew" they come up with the Younger Brigade of today will always find a way around it.

Oh so you waited until it was legal did you? ? I drank at the pub when I was 15, the drinking age was 21, the difference is that we knew to behave, so it was 2 beers & then go home

tash8497 said:
Oh gawd!

What does this mean? ? ? ?

radiobuff09 said:

5aaa said: Close 2am and open at 8am that's what our local pub does

Where is that 5aaa

A long way from Adelaide
It's in a farming town so it's just farmers and locals who go to the pub

Optimiss said:

Rob52 said:

Optimiss said:

Rob52 said: Ten o'clock, what is wrong with shuting at 10pm? ?

10pm!!!
That's only an hour after we used to go out! lol

Obviously you don't start work early, if you have a job

I was referring to fri, sat night when i was younger rob52.

Optimiss said:

Rob52 said:

Optimiss said:

Rob52 said: Ten o'clock, what is wrong with shuting at 10pm? ?

10pm!!!
That's only an hour after we used to go out! lol

Obviously you don't start work early, if you have a job

I was referring to fri, sat night when i was younger rob52.

The only reason for me to be out after that is when I was working, as a previous crowd controller I hate drunks with a passion.

It is the oldest argument in the world, those who think they no better telling the young how they should act. Let them go. Talk to the police and they will tell you Adelaide is quite and this is only an issue in the head of such people as Leon Byner.

@Grant, sure, sure, tell that to the ambos, nurses & doctors that work in emergency & they will want to section you. A friend who is the senior emergency doctor says if it wasn't for drunks & druggies she would be able to cut staff by 40%, most of her patients come in because of inappropiate use of alcohol & other drugs. Crowd control is a growth industry, why would that be if this wasn't a problem? ? ?

Iff thats the case Rob 52 maybe you advocate becoming the nanny state ? People will drug up and get smashed at home . There will be parties and fights in your neighborhood Rob. There is always repercussions . I say keep it in the city not in the suburbs.

Rob52 said: @Grant, sure, sure, tell that to the ambos, nurses & doctors that work in emergency & they will want to section you. A friend who is the senior emergency doctor says if it wasn't for drunks & druggies she would be able to cut staff by 40%, most of her patients come in because of inappropiate use of alcohol & other drugs. Crowd control is a growth industry, why would that be if this wasn't a problem? ? ?

You need to look at the big picture Rob, your argument is standard in all major cities so why should we become the nanny state?

Grant said: It is the oldest argument in the world, those who think they no better telling the young how they should act. Let them go. Talk to the police and they will tell you Adelaide is quite and this is only an issue in the head of such people as Leon Byner.

sorry Grant, I have rellies working in emergency RAH, and also a cousin in police force. I can't agree with you on this one, having raised two children and now a grandchild, they need guidance!!!

tash8497 said:

Grant said: It is the oldest argument in the world, those who think they no better telling the young how they should act. Let them go. Talk to the police and they will tell you Adelaide is quite and this is only an issue in the head of such people as Leon Byner.

sorry Grant, I have rellies working in emergency RAH, and also a cousin in police force. I can't agree with you on this one, having raised two children and now a grandchild, they need guidance!!!

i agree Tash and that guidance should come from family and friends not by putting a curfew on drinking and entertainment hours. It is not the answer and will again give the eastern states more ammunition to laugh at our 1950's type responses to problems.

i agree Tash and that guidance should come from family and friends not by putting a curfew on drinking and entertainment hours. It is not the answer and will again give the eastern states more ammunition to laugh at our 1950's type responses to problems.

I don't think that the eastern states have anything to brag about. In the real world family & friends are probably the LAST people to give youths advice, where do you think the behaviours come from? ? So many youngsters see parents & peers on drugs or drunk. So often it is the parent's hedonistic behaviours that kids follow

Grant said:
It is the oldest argument in the world, those who think they no better telling the young how they should act. Let them go. Talk to the police and they will tell you Adelaide is quite and this is only an issue in the head of such people as Leon Byner.

You really are clueless regarding this topic! The police are the ones pushing for the curfew, a report on the effectiveness of regulations that closes all pubs in Newcastle at 3:30am has found assault rates have dropped by 37 per cent.
Even New York has a curfew.

It can be any number of varying factors. Some young people grow up with bad role models (make that no role models), others (many) are affected by peer pressure, etc etc. It is not a simple or easy matter. By the way, why do some posters become so aggressive if s/o disagrees with them? We are all able to state our opinions here and do not need to be sarcastic or aggressive. No one of us has the complete answer.

having two brother'swho wok on the door at red square,the stories they what goes on the later night get's ...it will be good to shut 4am ..at least trail it..if it works great...but if it doesnt try something else..but at least give it a go

if you want to shut clubs at 10pm rob...maybe go live in a nanna state with that remark..with a attitude like that.,no wonder this state is going backwards...should we be in bed 2 at 10pm tuck in with our teddy bears..lol

@freeo1973, are you saying that people going out & getting pissed will advance the state & create jobs? ? ? Chum I work several jobs at once, I've worked with brain injured clients who almost ALL of them accquired the brain injury whilst under the influence of booze & or drugs. The few that get killed in car accidents cost bugger all compared to the cost of looking after oxygen thieves after they injure themselves is stupendous even when they pay careworkers a pittance, I also worked as a crowd controller & body guard, after midnight the crowds seem all to suffer from terminal stupidity. So by all means make snide remarks & insult me, but I suggest you talk to a few emergency staff at a hospital, ambos, cops & the SES workers who cut cretins out of cars, then make you comments.

I may get accused of going off topic but I personally believe that as well as the don't drink/drug and drive message being put out there we need better public transport. My point is if you can't get a cab and trains have stopped and buses are only running every hour up to a certain time and they are all full what option is there?
When I was younger and headed into the city, especially around xmas and other festive times, you could not get home unless you had a designated driver or left early in order to catch the last train/bus.
I know the gov run public transport longer around new year but even that wasn't enough from what I heard. People brawled over cabs and buses were too full to get on.

I agree Optimiss, although I'm lucky that my Granddaughter and b/f are pretty sensible and one of their party never drinks, but I know that doesn't go for all of the youngies.

@Optimiss I feel sad that people think that they need to be drunk to have a good time, there are other ways of having fun than visiting licenced premises, in fact over the Christmas new year break I tend to go without booze for that period, it's just safer. If my adult kids are going to have any drinks they don't drive & walk home from the city or Hindmarsh Stadium

no im saying people have a right and a choice when are where they go out and what they do..it's called being responsible..and learn to control your drinking my friend..Now if they have to shut clubs at 4am then give it a go..as long as there are safe means to get home good.but at least give it a go..shutting the town down at 10pm is just stupid and we would be the laughing stock of all of australia..nursing homes have their lights out at 10pm their's a thought ............mmmm

Agree with your sentiments freeo........

@freeo1973, how would you feel about people behaving badly in your home? ? ? If it's not appropriate in your home why should we tolerate it in public. Reality people DON'T control their drinking which is why the laws about drinking need changing. With every "right" you claim, there is a responsibility. If people can't behave in the right manner then their "rights" need curtailing. The cost to our state in dealing with drunken/drugged behaviour is in the billions

I agree with you Freeo. Most people are responsible.
Rob your statement suggests that people can't have fun without getting drunk. It doesn't take much alcohol to be over the limit.

Rob there are definitely people who cannot control their drinking and continue to show a disregard for others but what it sounds like you are suggesting is punish everyone for the few that are responsible. I for one don't want a nanny state. I hope that all you are suggesting is the curfew at 4.

I'd be happy if all pubs and clubs closed at 02.00. I'm a non-drinker though and people will suggest I am biased.

Paula said: I'd be happy if all pubs and clubs closed at 02.00. I'm a non-drinker though and people will suggest I am biased.

That late Paula! what the.........

When you consider the amount of people who are now living in the city 2am seems a reasonable time to close. I agree with you Paula.

I was joking!

Optimiss said:
When you consider the amount of people who are now living in the city 2am seems a reasonable time to close. I agree with you Paula.

Yep, I think so too. My husband says close at 10 pm, but that's too early. He's a drinker too!

Optimiss quite the oposite in fact. I barely drink, maybe7-8 drinks a month, but you are kidding yourself if you think that most people are responsible, the reverse is true, in fact when you've had ONE drink, your ability to reason is impaired, 2 drinks & you inhibitions crumple, 3 drinks & you are likely to be in situations that sober you wouldn't participate in. So many people load up BEFORE they go out. As someone who has worked in both crowd control & rehab, there isn't much that I haven't seen. One of my friends works as head of emergency in a major hospital & week-ends are her worst time, she sews up drunks, druggys & unfortunately their victims too. She has told me many times that booze is our biggest drug problem by far, in fact the rest bundled together don't even come close to booze.

Paula said:

Optimiss said:
When you consider the amount of people who are now living in the city 2am seems a reasonable time to close. I agree with you Paula.

Yep, I think so too. My husband says close at 10 pm, but that's too early. He's a drinker too!

I agree with your husband on this, 10:00pm is late enough, if you want to drink after that, do it at home

because you barley drink..doesnt mean other people cant my friend..just because people get drunk ..wot we class them as bad people ...come on rob get in the real world my friend..its a problem yes i agree but ..you learn to deal with it and manage it..we live in australia ROBERT the country of freedom of choice and given rights..you live in adelaide my friend ..that is a choice you make..you dont own adelaide and it isn't your house..it's your place you choose to live in....young people would look at your comments and just laugh in your face my friend...you have to reason with people and thoughts dont do that...

ok lets shut adelaide down and all go to rob's house and drink....that would be ok then...but then wot's the difference...maybe we all could cuddle with our drink after 10pm and watch the tubble weed go down our roads ..we would like that...lol

No thanks! Even in MY day, 10pm wld be a ridiculous closing time...and I'm very very very old.(that's a sorta joke)

freeo1973 said: ok lets shut adelaide down and all go to rob's house and drink....that would be ok then...but then wot's the difference...maybe we all could cuddle with our drink after 10pm and watch the tubble weed go down our roads ..we would like that...lol

LOL! Used to be an OLD song about tumbling tumble weed....ah nostalgia..and I had a drink after 10pm too

It was hot chocolate!

freeo1973 said:
because you barley drink..doesnt mean other people cant my friend..just because people get drunk ..wot we class them as bad people ...come on rob get in the real world my friend..its a problem yes i agree but ..you learn to deal with it and manage it..we live in australia ROBERT the country of freedom of choice and given rights..you live in adelaide my friend ..that is a choice you make..you dont own adelaide and it isn't your house..it's your place you choose to live in....young people would look at your comments and just laugh in your face my friend...you have to reason with people and thoughts dont do that...

Hey, try reading what I said. I said I thought an 02.00 closing was reasonable. Besides how do YOU know how old I am? I work with young people (15 year olds) and they are more conservative than me (tough public school types), so don't tell me they'd laugh in my face because they don't and won't.

tash8497 said:
It was hot chocolate!

Chocolate, mmmmm, but I like mine cold.

I must cease making faecitious (?) remarks

i might go buy a rocking chair and sit on my porch...and marry a girl called mary-jo ...and chew on straw....rocking back and fourth...yep cos i live in rob's world...hilly billy country yea har...horse and cart...rob would be a cheap night ...cos he would go home buy 10pm ha ha ha ha ha ha..

freeo1973 said:
i might go buy a rocking chair and sit on my porch...and marry a girl called mary-jo ...and chew on straw....rocking back and fourth...yep cos i live in rob's world...hilly billy country yea har...horse and cart...rob would be a cheap night ...cos he would go home buy 10pm ha ha ha ha ha ha..

In the words of The Eagles... GET OVER IT!

woo hoo! Thems' fightin' words gal!

and as the angel's said...paula ..im i ever going to see your face again....no way....get.......

freeo1973 said: and as the angel's said...paula ..im i ever going to see your face again....no way....get.......

Are you Related to Mr Riff ,

Rob52 said: Optimiss quite the oposite in fact. I barely drink, maybe7-8 drinks a month, but you are kidding yourself if you think that most people are responsible, the reverse is true, in fact when you've had ONE drink, your ability to reason is impaired, 2 drinks & you inhibitions crumple, 3 drinks & you are likely to be in situations that sober you wouldn't participate in. So many people load up BEFORE they go out. As someone who has worked in both crowd control & rehab, there isn't much that I haven't seen. One of my friends works as head of emergency in a major hospital & week-ends are her worst time, she sews up drunks, druggys & unfortunately their victims too. She has told me many times that booze is our biggest drug problem by far, in fact the rest bundled together don't even come close to booze.

So you truly believe that MOST people aren't responsible. Given 2 drinks your inhibitions crumble?? Come on it takes far more than that before people are dancing on tables and taking off their clothes. 3 drinks and your willing to go against your character?! No sorry rob don't agree.

Although I do agree with you about it being our most dangerous and health destroying drug.

@freeo1973, you miss the point, I don't drink because I choose not to, I don't suggest that is what everyone else should do, I just point out that because cretins get drunk & injure themselves & others too, it cost BILLIONS out of our health budget, pesonally I'd rather they choked to death on their own vomit in the gutter than clog up hospitals because after they've been patched up, they go & do it all over again, freeo1973 I spent years chucking dick-heads out of clubs & pubs, stopped them getting beaten up by other patrons & then had to restrain them from having a go at me or other workers trying to keep the peace. What is so great about getting drunk, did you realise that every time you can't remember last night is the damage is exactly the same as a concussion. Drunks end up in hospital & create problems for health professionals & take them away from people that need their help. MOST people that hang out in pubs & clubs get drunk on purpose

freeo1973 said:
and as the angel's said...paula ..im i ever going to see your face again....no way....get.......

Lordy, he's so young eh? I remember that song. We used to sing it when I was a kid. I'm so scared... NOT! *rolls eyes*

very narrow minded rob..people dont go to clubs and pub's ust to get drunk.my friend..you can go to a band or have a meal..or even play the pokie's ..so to say most people go to these places get drunk is a very narrow minded view...i suggest you buy a owl and it will help you opn your eye's

paula dont be scared sweety....i dont pick on nanna's ha ha ha ha ha...

It seems that some want the city to be busy at night and some don't. No matter which, there will be drunks, there will be agro people, there will be idiots and along with them will be many, many people who are out for a good laugh and fun time.

Do we want a city night life or not? Take the good with the bad.

@freeo I am a Nana of 8 and I dare you to pick on me LOL

ok nanna .........i love nanna's with gummy mouth's do yu haveyour own teeth...lol

freeo1973 said: paula dont be scared sweety....i dont pick on nanna's ha ha ha ha ha...

OMG, thank goodness for that! I wouldn 't want to hurt you!

tash8497 said:

freeo1973 said: paula dont be scared sweety....i dont pick on nanna's ha ha ha ha ha...

OMG, thank goodness for that! I wouldn 't want to hurt you!

Did he just call me a banana? *gasp*

Go get 'em Tash, you big meanie you!

If the curfew is to early everyone will be spilling out of these places at the same time and that is potentially a time for fights, lack of cabs hence more drink drivers. I don't know. But surely 4am closing for 3 hours is acceptable. Then again maybe shift workers. I don't know. Think I will sit on the fence again. lol

If people know they have to be out at 4 am or whatever time, they should make transport arrangements. Only an idiot wouldn't.

Maybe if there was a curfew then Kevin Foley would have to go home earlier!

Grey_Nomad said: Maybe if there was a curfew then Kevin Foley would have to go home earlier!

Why should he have to Grey Nomad? He is not a binge drinking teen is he? A mature age man who can make his own decisions to have a late drink. I cannot comprehend your thinking here, but respect your right to your opinion!

tash8497 said:

Grey_Nomad said: Maybe if there was a curfew then Kevin Foley would have to go home earlier!

Why should he have to Grey Nomad? He is not a binge drinking teen is he? A mature age man who can make his own decisions to have a late drink. I cannot comprehend your thinking here, but respect your right to your opinion!

Because he doesn't seem to know how to get on with others & can't look after himself

That's his responsibility then. He's not a green kid. Plenty of people must experience aggression etc, but of course we hear about him because of his position.

tash8497 said:
That's his responsibility then. He's not a green kid. Plenty of people must experience aggression etc, but of course we hear about him because of his position.

Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Growing old is mandatory, growing up is an option, obviously Kevvy hasn't taken up that option.

Well, we all have to make our own decisions and suffer any consequences. We shld still be able to feel safe going out at night to have a drink.

tash8497 said:
Well, we all have to make our own decisions and suffer any consequences. We shld still be able to feel safe going out at night to have a drink.

True but a "smart" person doesn't put themselves into danger. When I worked as a crowd controller, I ALWAYS tried to non-violent way but after that, I tried to minimise harm to myself & the offender

freeo1973 said:
paula dont be scared sweety....i dont pick on nanna's ha ha ha ha ha...

What's the bet you wouldn't front a bloke your own age & size? ? FYI Paula is not nor will be a nana, your manners are appalling

I repeat that anyone shld be able to have the freedom, and feel safe, to go out at night for a drink. I also know a person who used to be a "bouncer" or whatever they're termed. Just having a drink doesn't necessarily mean you're putting yourself in danger surely.

tash8497 said:
I repeat that anyone shld be able to have the freedom, and feel safe, to go out at night for a drink. I also know a person who used to be a "bouncer" or whatever they're termed. Just having a drink doesn't necessarily mean you're putting yourself in danger surely.

The polite term is crowd controller, in 5 years it only became necessary to hit 2 people both of them were armed. It depends where you want to drink Tash

freeo1973 said:
very narrow minded rob..people dont go to clubs and pub's ust to get drunk.my friend..you can go to a band or have a meal..or even play the pokie's ..so to say most people go to these places get drunk is a very narrow minded view...i suggest you buy a owl and it will help you opn your eye's

People going for a meal usually aren't there after 10PM, pokie players aren't trouble makers usually But I stick by the statement that most people go to get drunk

and that shows the narrow minded person you are..rob..go visit every pub in south australia and i bet you not everyone after 10pm goes there to get drunk...you have a good time without getting drunk...

my bother's are bouncer at red square and it isnt the booze...its drugs which is the problem....so pubs and cubs dont supply drugs ..they serve drinks

freeo1973 said: my bother's are bouncer at red square and it isnt the booze...its drugs which is the problem....so pubs and cubs dont supply drugs ..they serve drinks

Not to sure about that , Many Clubs and Pubs have been Closed Down due to Drug Dealers making Lots of money at the Venue.

freeo1973 said:
and that shows the narrow minded person you are..rob..go visit every pub in south australia and i bet you not everyone after 10pm goes there to get drunk...you have a good time without getting drunk...

I'd put big money on the fact that almost nobody in a pub or club after 10pm wouldn't be under the influence of a substance either legal or illegal, next you'll be telling me that you only buy playboy, ralph for the articles. Pubs & clubs couldn't afford to open if they didn't over sell their product

freeo1973 said:
my bother's are bouncer at red square and it isnt the booze...its drugs which is the problem....so pubs and cubs dont supply drugs ..they serve drinks

Alcohol is a drug dopey, it may be legal but causes more death & injury than all the others combined

Mazz said:
It seems that some want the city to be busy at night and some don't. No matter which, there will be drunks, there will be agro people, there will be idiots and along with them will be many, many people who are out for a good laugh and fun time.
Do we want a city night life or not? Take the good with the bad.
@freeo I am a Nana of 8 and I dare you to pick on me LOL

He wouldn't dare, as Arnie would say, "I think he's a girly man"

why dont you go out one day rob..ad see what happens...or is it past your bed time ...my brother's would welcome you with opn arms at red square..you would get pension discount...

it may never happen according to this article...

www.adelaidenow.com.au/

tash8497 said:
That's his responsibility then. He's not a green kid. Plenty of people must experience aggression etc, but of course we hear about him because of his position.

Tash, so often you make so much sense!

Let the clubs open - just don't allow the serving of alcohol!
Or maybe Adelaide start and allow music - bands back into Adelaide Pubs and give our youth somewher to go and something to do!

A curfew?

I can see the new slogans on number plates..."SA the Gestapo state" LOL

Spook said:
A curfew?
I can see the new slogans on number plates..."SA the Gestapo state" LOL

Or what about SA the responsible state

Responsibility lies in the hands of the individual not the government.
Why do the majority have to pay the penalty for the few that are irresponsible?

Spook said:
Responsibility lies in the hands of the individual not the government.
Why do the majority have to pay the penalty for the few that are irresponsible?

Because we don't live in a free for all, we have rules

I think some attempt has to be made to curb this situation. Goodness knows what the answer is, but it's very sad to see the youngies, for example, binge drinking and people running amok. I don't agree that it's the big brother syndrome at all. If nil was attempted, people wld still whinge because they didn't feel safe in certain places at certain times.

Shut the pubs & clubs at 10:00pm & let them trash their own homes if they want to drink.

Just wish I could afford to ?
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SkintJeff

I think closing at 10pm is massive overkill!!! i even used to go to nighclubs when younger after a night out!!!!! Oh, but you surely jest ROB?

tash8497 said:
I think closing at 10pm is massive overkill!!! i even used to go to nighclubs when younger after a night out!!!!! Oh, but you surely jest ROB?

No Tash, if you'd seen half the horrors that I've seen, you'd vote to shut them at 6pm! ! I've worked both as a crowd controller & with victims of road crashes, most caused by booze, it affects not just the people in the car but so many more. If you want to drink, do it at home with a few friends, you'll be less likely to end up on a slab with your family crying over you or to my mind, alive but incapable of looking afer yourself or your family. Tash, if you were badly injured by a drunk, who would look after your grand kids, I know from your posts that you love them dearly, so what would you do if that was no longer possible. I hate drunks with a passion. You don't need booze to have a good time

I still think it's overkill ROb, but thanks for your explanation. steps need to be taken so that people CAN go out after 10pm, I see THAT as hte problem. Why be ruled by these people?

Rob52 said:

Spook said:
Responsibility lies in the hands of the individual not the government.
Why do the majority have to pay the penalty for the few that are irresponsible?

Because we don't live in a free for all, we have rules

And its the responsibility of every individual to adhere to the rules (as draconian as they may seem)

Is there not penalties that apply to those that break said rules?
I for one am not going to be held to account for the minority that choose not to

Spook & Tash the trouble is these laws aren't enforced because get pissed & doing stupid things is seen as cool & the Australian way. In 2007 a married middle age lowlife admitted to trawling through a sleazy strip joint/pick-up spot, getting so pissed he couldn't remember what happened, we (the Australian public) thought that was so great his approval rating actually went up & we made him PM. Whilst Australians think it is OK to behave in a such a reprehensible manner, then I can't see a change for good any time soon.

Spook said:

Rob52 said:

Spook said:
Responsibility lies in the hands of the individual not the government.
Why do the majority have to pay the penalty for the few that are irresponsible?

Because we don't live in a free for all, we have rules

And its the responsibility of every individual to adhere to the rules (as draconian as they may seem)
Is there not penalties that apply to those that break said rules?
I for one am not going to be held to account for the minority that choose not to

Hardly a minority mate

And therein lies the problem...the laws are there and are not being enforced, the problem there is the policing of it.
Now the govs infinite wisdom has seen another money making opportunity in this by charging the shopkeeps more for opening later whilst the casino remains immune....is that a good incentive?
Again i ask, why should i have to be held to account?

Spook said:
And therein lies the problem...the laws are there and are not being enforced, the problem there is the policing of it.
Now the govs infinite wisdom has seen another money making opportunity in this by charging the shopkeeps more for opening later whilst the casino remains immune....is that a good incentive?
Again i ask, why should i have to be held to account?

To enforce this good law would lose them votes

So theres the problem....it totally lies with the government and their policing (or lack of)

Yet they seem to think that the stripping of freedoms off people and maintaining the votes at the ballot more important than public safety.
Is it any wonder why Rann dont want an ICAC?

Oh and by the way....im a teetotaller....i dont drink

Spook said:
So theres the problem....it totally lies with the government and their policing (or lack of)
Yet they seem to think that the stripping of freedoms off people and maintaining the votes at the ballot more important than public safety.
Is it any wonder why Rann dont want an ICAC?
Oh and by the way....im a teetotaller....i dont drink

I barely drink, usually no more than 6-8 drinks a month, I get my buzz out of life

Well, I enjoy my coffees!!! and I'm totally under control even after two.

"And therein lies the problem...the laws are there and are not being enforced, the problem there is the policing of it." I agree with this quote! Authorities have Laws , Signs here and there, Dog Poo to be collected at the Beach where one never sees anyone pilicing this. Now we have the new idea of a Non Smoking at the Rundle Mall! Who is going to police this? So" Lets not just pretent that by dishing out new Laws that it will fix it. It won't ones People know there is little chance anyone will be held responsible if they happen to breach it. The usual Australian way. let's just have a Patch Job and only do half of it and hope it will go away. Pathetic!

Interesting that all the threads were cleared out and re-instated anew on 3/5/2011. And yet "Lucks" is commenting on things from April and earlier.

rongram said: Interesting that all the threads were cleared out and re-instated anew on 3/5/2011. And yet "Lucks" is commenting on things from April and earlier.

Maybe he works in IT at 5AA or maybe he is mates with "you know who"

Can I suggest that maybe "somebody" is rehashing old threads in an attempt to kick a bit more variety of discussion into the forum?

Whyisitso said: Can I suggest that maybe "somebody" is rehashing old threads in an attempt to kick a bit more variety of discussion into the forum?

I don't know how to access old threads that were deleted on or just prior to 3/5/2011.

rongram said:

Whyisitso said: Can I suggest that maybe "somebody" is rehashing old threads in an attempt to kick a bit more variety of discussion into the forum?

I don't know how to access old threads that were deleted on or just prior to 3/5/2011.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that you knew how to access old threads if that's the way you took it but a forum moderator should know how to.

Why don't we go back to 6:00pm closing & banning females from the front bar? ?

Rob52 said:
Why don't we go back to 6:00pm closing & banning females from the front bar? ?

Now there's a good idea!

Whyisitso said:

Rob52 said:
Why don't we go back to 6:00pm closing & banning females from the front bar? ?

Now there's a good idea!

Don't laugh they have almost got rid of fags & now they reckon booze causes cancer.

Lucks said:[/b. Now we have the new idea of a Non Smoking at the Rundle Mall! Who is going to police this? !

I suppose it will be Juliars "anti-pollution" police - after all, doesn't smoking cigarettes increase global warming?