How come there was no way MM was going to sign a pledge last week. Apparently it's only done when you're in opposition. Perhaps all the negative publicity in the Sunday Mail might of influenced his decision to put pen to paper!

Mike rann on Leon's show?
Hell must have frozen over!

Leon treated him with kid gloves, (as expected).
As for his pledge, that's as meaninless as his word. Didn't he have to swear some sort of oath when he was appointed as Premier........for what that was worth.

What a load of crap. This is not worth the paper its written on. Leon you lose a bit of credibility following on with this , you should have just looked into it and left it alone. I thought the same when whats her name signed it. Just a stunt..she should just stick to being tazered.

Feeling the pressure, Mike?

Mike Rann's personal vendetta with his 'Bikies' Policy is an absolute disgrace and abuse of power. The tracking of 'Motorcyclist's' going for a ride, using Helicopters, Police Cars, Bikes, and personnel was a total WASTE, of tax-payers funds. His continuation with this fruitless action in the Courts is appalling. I believe most South Australians see the proposed Law for exactly what it is, Unconstitutional.
Messrs Rann and Foley, it is time to go !!!

It's long PAST time to go. The priorities of this so-called govt are all up a creek and designed to make "Yogi Bear On Mogadon" (from Blakey) look like Mr Popular, but the public must surely see through this by now?

Time to go Mikey, you are giving Pommy Baskets a bad name

You can be the most popular leader in australia, which mike rann was, and sooner or later all the dirt thrown by the opposition and its supporters starts to stick. Pollies are like socks they get smellie and you ned to change them. Mike Rann will be judged by history not some lib loving people on some radio staion forum . He will be looked back upon as giving us a more than a lot of you people think. When the drought hits again and the desal plant is pumping fresh clean water think of him. When you are sitting at a brand new footy stadium cheering thecrows think of him. When you go to a state of the art hospital to visit your sick loved ones think of him. Iff any of you think redmonds party will get into power and get rid of taxes your crazy . Adelaide has been run a lot better than most other states . Im sure rob and cob will have something negative to say thats what we expect from them . I am sick of there negative doomsday rants.

Bwhahaha ,yes mike /labor are going to be
Remembered for sure .But it's not going to
Be your rose colored view.Just like they found
In NSW ,There are to many grubby secretes
In SA ,that the fullnes of time will reviel

"will reviel", is that Freudian cob?

Grant said:
"will reviel", is that Freudian cob?
,

You lot are so deluded in your belief in the labor
Party's greatness your blind to the steam roller
Coming your way.If your trying to Emply me n
Fred are 1 & the same ,you very mistaken .
Ranns labor will be remembered for rampant
Systemic coruption ,secrecy ,cover ups,cronyism
High job killing tax,robbing from pensioners
,closing hospitals ,selling timber cutting private
Sector jobs so fat cat paper pushing public servants
Can keep there high paying tax funded jobs,And
WASTEING Billions in GST ,I could go on n on

agree COB! Definitely time to go for Rann & Co. And I've lived through many elections and voted for different parties at different times. They are on the nose for sure.

When the drought hits again we will be asking why we're paying so much for our water and why we're having so many power cuts and why those living north of the city are paying more but getting nothing for it.

When you're sitting in a brand new footy stadium getting soaked to the skin and frozen to the bone from the cutting wind thinking about the hassle you're going to have finding and getting to your car you can ponder over what might have been had the job been done properly.

When you go to visit your sick relatives at the state of the art new hospital you'll no doubt wonder why they still had to wait 8hrs to be seen by a doctor, why they are now laying on a sun-lounge rather than a proper bed, why people are still complaining that there are no beds for elective surgery patients and why there is still a shortage of nurses. Oh yeah....where have all the mental health patients gone....cured? I don't think so!

[When you go to visit your sick relatives at the state of the art new hospital you'll no doubt wonder why they still had to wait 8hrs to be seen by a doctor, why they are now laying on a sun-lounge rather than a proper bed, why people are still complaining that there are no beds for elective surgery patients and why there is still a shortage of nurses. Oh yeah....where have all the mental health patients gone....cured? I don't think so!

Answer is simple WIIS, we need all the bludgers who do not pay for private health cover to get off their bums and pay and not rely on people like me and my wife who work hard and have never had any child support or any other government hand out to pay high taxes to support them. If you do not have private health cover you can wait until you die for all I care because you should not rely on those who work to support those bludgers who put that forty dollars a week to booze and smokes instead of health. The whole health system will fail whilst these bludgers expect workers like me to pay for them when they get fat due to their bludging lifestyles.

You lot are so deluded in your belief in the labor
Party's greatness your blind to the steam roller
Coming your way.If your trying to Emply me n
Fred are 1 & the same ,you very mistaken .
Ranns labor will be remembered for rampant
Systemic coruption ,secrecy ,cover ups,cronyism
High job killing tax,robbing from pensioners
,closing hospitals ,selling timber cutting private
Sector jobs so fat cat paper pushing public servants
Can keep there high paying tax funded jobs,And
WASTEING Billions in GST ,I could go on n on

Had to repost this as its very true : ) especially the bit about the Systemic corruption

Not very original whyisitso. Totally expected tho.I spose in the driest city in the driest continent we need a roof over our heads to watch footy.Have you even looked at the plans whyisitso most of the seats are under cover you killjoy .What would you have the govt do spend another half a billion on a stadium. I thought we were bankrupt?I spose its nice to be able to see into the future to know waiting times for hospital visits. The libs want us to drink recycled sewage and chemical laden strormwater go for it whyisitso.

cob115 said: You lot are so deluded in your belief in the labor
Party's greatness your blind to the steam roller
Coming your way.If your trying to Emply me n
Fred are 1 & the same ,you very mistaken .
Ranns labor will be remembered for rampant
Systemic coruption ,secrecy ,cover ups,cronyism
High job killing tax,robbing from pensioners
,closing hospitals ,selling timber cutting private
Sector jobs so fat cat paper pushing public servants
Can keep there high paying tax funded jobs,And
WASTEING Billions in GST ,I could go on n on

Had to repost this as its very true : ) especially the bit about the Systemic corruption

I would repost my answer but that would be lazy plus you would still respond with shit.

ouch ! truth hurts doesnt it Grant
Wonder how the Desal plants coming along? thats a well thought value for money project for South Australians ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,isnt it ?

cob115 said: ouch ! truth hurts doesnt it Grant
Wonder how the Desal plants coming along? thats a well thought value for money project for South Australians ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,isnt it ?

Could not agree more, the desal plant is a very progressive and important project for the state. Good to see you are growing up and seeing logic.

@Grant Mike Ranndy has given me & country people NOTHING except grief & removal of services, our taxes will pay for the cities desal plant (A Liberal idea) I will NEVER sit in the hacked up Adelaide stadium watching Bogan Ball & I hope I never have to try & fly into the the Marg Mahal hospital built smack bang in the Adelaide airports flight path, as for reaching it in an ambulance, good luck on that one! ! Oh & the other things Ranndy has given us, no new prison, no new centre for wayward youth, the sale of Hillcrest hospital, Multifunction polis & let's not forget his role in the state bank disasterm, my grand kids will still be affected by that one

watson said:
You can be the most popular leader in australia, which mike rann was, and sooner or later all the dirt thrown by the opposition and its supporters starts to stick. Pollies are like socks they get smellie and you ned to change them. Mike Rann will be judged by history not some lib loving people on some radio staion forum . He will be looked back upon as giving us a more than a lot of you people think. When the drought hits again and the desal plant is pumping fresh clean water think of him. When you are sitting at a brand new footy stadium cheering thecrows think of him. When you go to a state of the art hospital to visit your sick loved ones think of him. Iff any of you think redmonds party will get into power and get rid of taxes your crazy . Adelaide has been run a lot better than most other states . Im sure rob and cob will have something negative to say thats what we expect from them . I am sick of there negative doomsday rants.

Well guess what chum, Cob & I are sick to our back teth by your sycophantic rants in favour of SOuth Australia's unarguably worse ever premier! ! !

I wonder if Grant thinks Ranndy's idea of cutting fire fighters pay by $1,600 pa is a good idea to?

Interesting observation
During my time on the 5AA forum you would
Know buy now ,I and many many others are
Extremely angry with the direction our once
Great state has been pushed to ,Iv also known
Of a lot of anger in the community ,from farmers
Who have been screwed over and left to die
With no water,fishermen who will have there
Lively hoods stolen,timber workers loosing there
Jobs so the government can pay public servants
Wages,pensioners being lied to & loosing there
Federal government bonus,blue color factory
Workers being slugged the heighest stamp duty
Fees in Australia.Small business closing /scaling
Back due to heigh tax,
Billions billions of GST cash but were broke ! were has it all gorn?
Arnt we in a boom,yet our domestic product has fallen 50% since Ranns /Labor came to office
God I'm not making non of this up & there's so
So much more ,wether it's no ICAC,dodgy deals
Or over blown public servants from NRMA thinking
There god ,etc etc.But my intresting observation is Every one i speek to ,in the street,pub,work,school,shops Every one is well & truly peeed of with Rann/Labor & knows were not being told the truth ,every one that is except a handfull on this forum,Who suprise suprise
are & allways & have been PUBLIC servants .

Rob52 said: I wonder if Grant thinks Ranndy's idea of cutting fire fighters pay by $1,600 pa is a good idea to?

Of course I do not and have posted so at least 10 times. That is why I support the PSA's stand on it. It is an across the board reduction to ALL public servants not just the fire fighters. Labor are attempting to change conditions of employment through legislative changes to deny all public servants their leave loading and reduce long service leave from 15 days a year to 9 days a year for all employees with greater than 15 years services. This in itself may not seem wrong to those who paint all these workers as bludgers but what is wrong is he agreed to no changes during EB negotiations last year. The fire fighters are part of rolling meetings that will indeed include all of Australia as the impact should this be allowed will changed the foundation of all EB agreements. The PSA have been granted leave to take the issue to the high court so Labors response will be interesting over the next few months. I would not be surprised if such actions such as clerical staff refusing to process payments may be introduced. This may cause quite an impact on the government and the public and I feel Labor have underestimated the anger within a hard working public service.
And Cob and Rob please do not send back arguments about fat cats (non public servant appointments) and taxes.

hehhe talk about kicking the hornets nest as you all sit in front of your computers typing look around smell the roses relax . Enjoy your holiday fred. Cob go for a cruise in that muscle car , i have musle cars to cob, in you photo and rob go and enjoy the murray .

Grant said:
[When you go to visit your sick relatives at the state of the art new hospital you'll no doubt wonder why they still had to wait 8hrs to be seen by a doctor, why they are now laying on a sun-lounge rather than a proper bed, why people are still complaining that there are no beds for elective surgery patients and why there is still a shortage of nurses. Oh yeah....where have all the mental health patients gone....cured? I don't think so!
Answer is simple WIIS, we need all the bludgers who do not pay for private health cover to get off their bums and pay and not rely on people like me and my wife who work hard and have never had any child support or any other government hand out to pay high taxes to support them. If you do not have private health cover you can wait until you die for all I care because you should not rely on those who work to support those bludgers who put that forty dollars a week to booze and smokes instead of health. The whole health system will fail whilst these bludgers expect workers like me to pay for them when they get fat due to their bludging lifestyles.

I agree in the main but there will always be those who genuinely cannot afford private health insurance. Tony Abbott's latest proposal to get people off the dole would take care of a large proportion of bludgers!

Whyisitso said: When the drought hits again we will be asking why we're paying so much for our water and why we're having so many power cuts and why those living north of the city are paying more but getting nothing for it.
When you're sitting in a brand new footy stadium getting soaked to the skin and frozen to the bone from the cutting wind thinking about the hassle you're going to have finding and getting to your car you can ponder over what might have been had the job been done properly.
When you go to visit your sick relatives at the state of the art new hospital you'll no doubt wonder why they still had to wait 8hrs to be seen by a doctor, why they are now laying on a sun-lounge rather than a proper bed, why people are still complaining that there are no beds for elective surgery patients and why there is still a shortage of nurses. Oh yeah....where have all the mental health patients gone....cured? I don't think so!

Great post WIIS and you are correct 100%

@Grant, it was so nice to see you use please, as for Ranndy's mates being appointed to jobs, people such as Nicole Cornes, I have to feel that an ICAC would be a fun thing to have in SA

watson said:
hehhe talk about kicking the hornets nest as you all sit in front of your computers typing look around smell the roses relax . Enjoy your holiday fred. Cob go for a cruise in that muscle car , i have musle cars to cob, in you photo and rob go and enjoy the murray .

Sorry Sunshine, whilst you, Grant & Paula are around I feel that I need to be here to counterbalance your posts, as for enjoying the Murray, how can I when the rest of SA is being driven at high speed down the road to perdition by Ranndy Mike & his henchmen

watson said:
hehhe talk about kicking the hornets nest as you all sit in front of your computers typing look around smell the roses relax . Enjoy your holiday fred. Cob go for a cruise in that muscle car , i have musle cars to cob, in you photo and rob go and enjoy the murray .

Yes nothing to worry about,Your a fool if you
Think every thing is fine,well a fool or public servant
Who thinks there's a endless supply of tax payers
Money coming in

Oh dear ,just how broke is SA ?it's lookinglike
Labor didn't budget for the Adelaide oval
So there selling the timber assets & jobs ,
In a mad grab for cash.Well done Randy
SA family's can rely on you fiscal management

cob115 said:
Oh dear ,just how broke is SA ?it's lookinglike
Labor didn't budget for the Adelaide oval
So there selling the timber assets & jobs ,
In a mad grab for cash.Well done Randy
SA family's can rely on you fiscal management

Yes Cob he has the "perfect" track record on financial matters, When Jennifer Cashmore MP raised concerns about the State Bank in parliament on 13/04/89 he got up on his hind legs in parliament & sneeringly stated "The member for Coles is out of her depth on economic matters".

OMG , I remember that,& out media were
Exactly the same then as now.The crap is going
Hit the fan sooner than we think.& us mug tax payers
Are stuffed

oh dear ,just read the factions are out to damage Turbo Tom ,
Some one in the Labor party leaked to the Media the Submission on the proposed Explosives plant
,Jeez Tom now your own mob cant be trusted.
Have to ask Rann to sort this out,after all he was the one who fought tooth n nail to bring Roxby to life : )
Oh crap no he wasnt,he wrote a book blasting the Liberals for bringing Roxby to life

He is like the other socialist leaders over recent years and knows damn well that our prime minister past and present has agreed to enter this country into global government through the G20 with the BanCor digital currency once the world economy has collapsed soon in the near future, has anyone been awake and are watching the deliberate oversupply of US dollars in the global currency market. This is why they are spending like drunkards, collapse can only mean balance sheets are rebalanced through brand new currency consolidation globally and global tax called a Carbon Taxing System. This leader is just a puppet like the rest or recent ones. Just don't believe this state leader on anything he says, just watch the spending madness continue!

cob115 said:

watson said:
hehhe talk about kicking the hornets nest as you all sit in front of your computers typing look around smell the roses relax . Enjoy your holiday fred. Cob go for a cruise in that muscle car , i have musle cars to cob, in you photo and rob go and enjoy the murray .

Yes nothing to worry about,Your a fool if you
Think every thing is fine,well a fool or public servant
Who thinks there's a endless supply of tax payers
Money coming in

You make this stuff up to suit your own needs thanks for the insult

Yes nothing to worry about,Your a fool if you
Think every thing is fine,well a fool or public servant
Who thinks there's a endless supply of tax payers
Money coming in

You make this stuff up to suit your own needs thanks for the insult

I make nothing up Watson,
Your feelings of some how being insulted
Are a week excuse to divert attention
Toughen up princess

Can't you guys just have a reasoned debate?!

Indeed Tash .nothing wrong with strong robust
Discussion ,I think you will find I have and always
Are thought full of others ,Except for our
Current Government

tash8497 said:
Can't you guys just have a reasoned debate?!

Pleas define reasoned for me

cob115 said: Indeed Tash .nothing wrong with strong robust
Discussion ,I think you will find I have and always
Are thought full of others ,Except for our
Current Government

I'd say that's a bit of a compliment calling them a "govt" COB!

indeed Tash : ) my time in the sin bin has tought me to be a nice person : ) Im sure Grant/watson would back me up on this one

cob115 said: indeed Tash : ) my time in the sin bin has tought me to be a nice person : ) Im sure Grant/watson would back me up on this one

ha ha, onya! always catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

Rann is not perfect .Still i would rather him than that other mob. What ideas have you heard from them lately ? Bugger All

Its so easy for the libs to stand there with protesters And say ,yes i know it hurts cry on my shoulder, but they come up with nothing. All they say is labor should go back to the drawing board . Well guess what you cant run a govt like that. The libs will not remove 1 tax so get over it.

Dont build the hospital .Dont build the desal plant.Dont upgrade adelaide oval. Guess what iff our ancesters had this same philosophy , which mine where here on one of the first boats here when there wasnt even a house here, adelaidewould be a dirt patch. Lets wrap adelaide in a plastic bubble so nothing happens. Thats what i get from some of you

You clearly are oblivious to the thoughts of the
Working every day South Australian Watson
After 9 years of spin lies waste SA is in worse
Condition now.less people are employed in mining
Out states gross product has fallen buy 50%
Our tax rate has became the highest in Australia
If you judge a government on it's success on
,the quality of life style ,the access to public transport,wage & jobs growth ,business investment

The Rann labor government has failed .

Interesting how you boast of the so called
Achievements ,the desal foot ball etc etc .When
Every one knows the liberals brought a of these
Policy's up.What Ranns /labor done was to twist
A good policy on the run & try to claim it as
There own doing .the sad facts are the desal
Is one masive rort costing us billions .Adelaide
Oval will be just as bad .Yet you can't see the trees
For the Forrest .Just like the state bank collapse
We are being treated like idiots .until labor just
Cant manipulate the media any longer & the poo hits the fan .

Why is the desal plant a rort? why will adelaide oval be a rort . These are you anti labor prejudices coming out Cobb and it is really quite boring.

All getting a bit boring these discussions, lets leave it to the voters in a couple of years to judge this government. I agree Rann is not performing well and there are some obvious signs of wastage. But to drag every issue up as a rort is not correct. We should all support the state and not be so negative. If Rann is as bad as some of you think he will no longer be here come 2013.

watson said: Dont build the hospital .Dont build the desal plant.Dont upgrade adelaide oval. Guess what iff our ancesters had this same philosophy , which mine where here on one of the first boats here when there wasnt even a house here, adelaidewould be a dirt patch. Lets wrap adelaide in a plastic bubble so nothing happens. Thats what i get from some of you

Yeah let's not get adequate treatment for the elderly, let's not get people housed, Let's not get people's dental health ok. It's a matter of priorities my friend! And just be thankful that you are so so lucky to live here. My cousin has just returned from o/seas inc. Russia. There has to be balance in everything I'd say.